14:34 when he says, "Let the women keep silent in the church; for they are not permitted to speak"? He was led astray from obeying the truth, thinking something better was to be gained by disobedience. To be perfectly candid, no interpretation is without its problems. It has been suggested that they called out questions to their husbands, disrupting the worship, or that they became noisy in times of charismatic expression by the congregation, not having the sense of order which their husbands had. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 1 – 1 of 1 Two Audiences 'Til April John Piper 1 Corinthians 14:24-25. 1 Corinthians 14:21. 2 14:2 1 Kor. The translations “usurp authority” (KJV) and “domineer” (NEB) are unwarranted. (4) Some suggest that 11:5 describes an informal meeting different from the public, corporate gathering of the church. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 11:17–34. In each of the above interpretations, the conclusion is the same: 1 Corinthians 14 teaches that women are to be silent in the general assembly of the church. This is because many of the Western witnesses have these verses after v. 40, while the rest of the tradition retains them here. 1 It is love, then, that you should strive for. For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 15:10. "and all may be exhorted", b.???????????????? Paul’s instructions concerning women in 1 Timothy 2:9-15 begin (v. 9) and end (v. 15) with an admonition to “sobermindedness” (sophrosune). 1 Corinthians 3:15, ESV: "If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire." 1 Corinthians 13. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. In the law it is written — The law here signifies the whole Jewish Scriptures. 1 Corinthians 3:15 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] 1 Corinthians 3:15, NIV: "If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved--even though only as one escaping through the flames." Both men and women spoke in tongues and were prophets in the Corinthian church (1 Cor. 1. 1 Corinthians 12:1,31 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant… Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: prophesy. Cf. John Piper Aug 18, 2019 1.5K Shares 1 2 3 … Next › Last » God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him Learn more about Desiring God Desiring God. In fact, if you skip over verses 33b-35, and go straight from verse 33a to verse 36, the passage flows and makes good sense. "but if there is no interpreter", a.???????????????? John Piper is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. With stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. The restriction may be temporal or topical. The reason for that is due in no small part to the clash that this text brings to modern egalitarian sensibilities. 34 Women [] should remain silent in the churches. 33b-35 he takes up v. 29b ["and let the others pass judgment"]. Thus there is no conflict with 11:5. The text is a straightforward statement of general apostolic principles which we have seen in Ephesians 5 and 1 Corinthians 11. 1 Corinthians 15:9–10, Part 3. Hearing God's Word in the Silence: A Canonical Approach to 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Aug 24, 2003. "for it is improper for a woman to speak in church". . 14:39 Jaag de liefde na en streef naar de gaven van de Geest, vooral naar die van de profetie. Browse Sermons on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. All the evidence in Genesis 3 points to the fact that Adam and Eve were both present during the serpent’s temptation (December, p. 35). For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. 2:12:15). The same word and tense are used in 1 Corinthians 14:34 (“ [the women] are not permitted to speak”), and Paul adds, “as in all the churches of the saints.” The common assertion that Paul is dealing with a temporary problem of unruly women has no basis in the text. Blomberg responds to this view in similar fashion, arguing that it "fails to explain why Paul silenced all women and no men, when presumably there were at least a few well-educated, courteous, or orthodox women and at least a few uneducated, less than polite, or doctrinally aberrant men" (280-81). Mar 18, 1990. (3) In 11:5 Paul does not actually endorse women speaking in church. 1 CORINTHIANS 4:1-5. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” (verses 33-35). God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him. Also it was appropriate for Eunice to teach her son Timothy (2 Tim. In this activity one could hardly avoid explicit theological and ethical instruction of other believers. 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 Thomas R. Schreiner (Bethel Theological Seminary) 117 Chapter 6: ÒSilent in the ChurchesÓ: On the Role of Women in 1 Corinthians 14:33b-36 D. A. Carson (Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) 133 Chapter 7: Role Distinctions in the Church: ... including Desiring God and The Supremacy of God in Preaching. It is not proper for them to speak. 1 Corinthians 14 ... 18 I thank a God that I speak in tongues more than all of you; 19 yet in the church I would rather speak five words a with my understanding, in order to teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38 New International Version (NIV). In a society with strictly defined gender and social roles, and a strong view of the rights of the man over his wife, such behaviour was treated as totally inappropriate" (274-75). 34-35 from Paul's argument. It is used in 1 Peter 3:4 of a woman’s “gentle and quiet spirit” that can win her husband “without a word.” The word does not mean she cannot interact at home or at church. 1 Corinthians 12:1,31 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant… Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: prophesy. 14 1 14:1 1 Kor. John Piper Aug 10, 2003 0 Shares Sermon. What, then, does he mean in 1 Cor. 1 Cor 11:5 , 13 ). But why would this be regarded as "improper" or "shameful"? Feb 1, 1998. King James 2000 Bible Follow after love, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that you may prophesy. Specific Issue #2: Prophecy (14:29-35), A.?????????????? Get beautiful Bible art delivered to your inbox. 27-31 where he puts limits on how many can speak in tongues and prophesy). Scripture: 1 Corinthians 13:8–14:5. How to Preach in the Power of the Spirit. The Greatest Act of Spiritual Warfare. (9) Finally, there is the view which understands Paul to be prohibiting women from participating in the passing of judgment upon or the evaluation of the prophets (14:29). On the other hand, if v. 33b is linked with v. 34, we are left with the somewhat trite declaration that God is a God of peace in every church. 1 Corinthians 10:13, Part 2. 14 by some scribe after its original composition by Paul. John Piper Jan 29, 1989 20 Shares Message. God created the church by calling unqualified sinners and making them saints. Aug 18, 2019. "for God is not a God of confusion", 2.???????????????? Jon M. Isaak. They are speaking secret truths by the power of the Spirit. Footnotes. In vv. One can see how later scribes, convinced that these verses interrupt Paul's discussion of spiritual gifts, would move them to the end of the chapter where they might function as the beginning of a new discussion. Grace for the New Year. The “silence” required of women is not total. Prophecy, unlike teaching, does not entail the exercise of an authoritative position within the local church. 2:11, 12] 1 Corinthians 14:34: See 1 Pet. [ b] Arrested and humbled before God, they will declare themselves believer. is to be completed in accordance with 1 Corinthians 14:23: ἐὰν δὲ συνέλθῃ ἡ ἐκκλ. Sign up for the Verse of the Day. In Acts 21:9 Luke refers to the four daughters of Philip as having the gift of prophecy. 1 Corinthians 14:21 Isaiah 28:11,12; 1 Corinthians 14:34 Or peace. The plight of all humanity is that we are lovers of sin and sons of disobedience. 14:28 where the tongues-speaker could certainly participate in singing, praying, reading Scripture, while remaining silent in that realm of concern to the apostle. . Bible > Interlinear Bible > 1 Corinthians 14 ... to God N-DMS: 3762 oudeis Finally, (7) it assumes that 'the only people' in verse 36, a masculine plural adjective (monous), refers just to men rather than to both men and women, even though no other plural reference to the Corinthians ever singles out the men in this way without explicitly saying so" (280). When Paul says, “I permit no woman to teach” (v. 12), he has in view the function of the teaching elder (5:17), not all possible forms of teaching. John Piper Feb 7, 1993 105 Shares Sermon. John Piper Dec 7, 1997 23 Shares Sermon. However, chp. 34-35 at the end of the chapter rather than between vv. Paul writes, 33b As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. Scripture > 1 Corinthians 14 Name > piper, john Source > Desiring God. 3:2). It has two parts: First, “Adam was formed first.” I argued in December that God could have easily avoided giving Paul and me the impression of male leadership by creating man and woman simultaneously. Thus there is no conflict with 11:5. 1 Corinthians 12:28 begins with a list of church leaders; and it is an unusual list.It does not even mention evangelists and pastors, which appear in Paul’s list in Ephesians 4:11. As in all the congregations of the Lord’s people, 34 women; Cross references. The same word (hesuchia) is used in verse 2 for the “quiet” life which all godly people should lead. When Paul tells women to "keep silent" he is not prohibiting their making a verbal contribution to the meeting, whether in the form of praying or prophesying or the like. Those of us who believe in the textual integrity of 1 Corinthians will find this singularly unappealing, as well as unnecessary. Browse Sermons on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. 1 Corinthians Commentary > chapter 12. 148:12). 6:15,19; Ps. I would suggest that what Paul means is that the woman was deceived in the sense that she was the one carrying on direct dealings with the deceiver. What Paul prohibits women from doing in the public assembly is asking questions of someone other than their husbands. ἐὰν δὲ πάντες προφ.] It is based on the will of God in creation and the lessons that come from the breach of that will. 1 Corinthians 14:23-25.Yet sometimes prophecy is of more use even to unbelievers than speaking with tongues. Restriction on the number speaking - "it should be by two or at the most three", B.?????????????? John Piper Jul 1, 1976 40 Shares Look at the Book . Also, why would Paul prohibit the most likely older and more mature married women from speaking while allowing the younger and possibly less stable single women to speak. 1 Corinthians 14:34. I would define this authority as a right and power given by the Spirit and confirmed by the church to give forceful instruction and exhortation to the church in doctrinal and ethical matters based on God’s Word. George Knight has taken the trouble to examine all the known occurrences of this rare word in ancient Greek literature and concludes: “The ‘authority’ in view in the documents is understood to be a positive concept and is in no way regarded as having any overtone of misuse of position or power.” Therefore, Paul is prohibiting not simply a woman’s willful usurpation of authority, but also her exercise of normal authority in the teaching office of the church. Find Top Church Sermons, Illustrations, and Preaching Slides on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Taking a closer look at 1 Corinthians 14, se see the overall concern is orderly assemblies. the word in Acts 26:25 and Mark 5:15), and which a man too must have to qualify as an elder (1 Tim. God does not save based on any human qualifications. Cross references. And just as in each of those texts, so here the principle is based not on temporary problems or culturally relative conditions. 1 Corinthians 14:16 The Greek word for inquirer is a technical term for someone not fully initiated into a religion; also in verses 23 and 24. One could reasonably argue that, if this view is correct, Paul's prohibition in v. 34 on women speaking is no longer applicable. Why We Eat the Lord's Supper, Part 2. Non-apostolic prophets did not proclaim the theological and ethical standards by which the church was guided, nor are they portrayed as exercising governmental authority in the church. Aug 10, 2003. 34-35 are a Corinthian slogan which Paul quotes, only to refute it in vv. Follow Desiring God on Facebook. 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. ◄1 Corinthians 14:34 ► women are to be silent in the churches. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 11:17–34. Consider the following evidence. To do otherwise is "improper" or "shameful". The prophet was but an instrument through whom revelation is reported to the congregation. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. We have several indications in the NT that the prophetic gift was bestowed upon and exercised by women no less than by men. Is Every Temptation a Test from God? Read full chapter Read full chapter. The meaning is suggested by its opposite: she is not “to have authority over men” but “to keep silent” (v. 12). This word never implies total silence on all speech but is contextually restricted. Here are a few of the questions I have received over the years and the answers I attempted to provide. 30-33a he takes up v. 29a ["let two or three prophets speak"]. Most people in the world have no experience of lasting joy in their lives. This view also explains Paul's appeal to "the Law" (i.e., the OT) in v. 34. NIV, Biblical Theology Study Bible, Comfort Print: Follow God’s Redemptive Plan as It Unfolds throughout Scripture. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 13:8–14:5. That it was not uncommon in those times for God in an extraordinary manner to punish people with calamity, sickness, or death for their sins is evident from the New Testament; see the 1 Corinthians 5:5 note; Acts 5:1-10; Acts 13:11 notes; 1 Timothy 1:20 note; and perhaps 1 John 5:16 note; and James 5:14 … How is it then, brethren? 1 Corinthians 14 New English Translation (NET Bible) Prophecy and Tongues. Prophecy and Tongues. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. Sandwiched between the admonitions to soberminded moral adornment (vs. 9-10) and soberminded holiness (v. 15) comes a specific application (vs. 11-14). 11 also has wives in view and it permits them to speak. 1 Corinthians: Translation of 14:33-35. 1 Corinthians 14. John Piper, “The Order of Creation,” The Standard 74:4 (April 1984): 35, 38. (2) A few liberal scholars argue that Paul simply changed his mind. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 The Voice (VOICE) 34 Wives should be respectfully silent at the gatherings, as they are not allowed to speak; and they should yield themselves to those in authority just as it is written in the law. First Corinthians 14:34-35 should be excised from the text, according to various scholars (principally Straatman, Fitzer, Barrett, Ruef, Fee, and Payne). There are three problems with this interpretation: Adam was deceived in the sense of 2 Corinthians 11:3. "just as the Law also says", b.???????????????? CHAPTER 14. First Corinthians 14:34-35 should be excised from the text, according to various scholars (principally Straatman, Fitzer, Barrett, Ruef, Fee, and Payne). Question 1: Hey Pastor Paul! Look closely at his citation of Joel's promise: "'And it shall be in the last days,' God says, 'That I will pour forth of My Spirit on all mankind; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even upon My bondslaves, both men and women, I will in those days pour forth of My Spirit,' and they shall prophesy" (Acts 2:17-18; emphasis mine). Blomberg cites seven reasons why this is unlikely: "Unlike all the other widely acknowledged slogans in 1 Corinthians, these verses (1) are not concise or proverbial in form; (2) do not reflect the libertine wing of the church; (3) require the assumption that there was a significant Judaizing element in the church, which little else in the letter supports; (4) are not qualified by Paul but rejected outright; and (5) as best as we can tell represent an explanation that was never proposed in the history of the church until the twentieth century. 1 Corinthians 14:34. Hence, don’t give them a teaching office. All of our resources exist to guide you toward everlasting joy in Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is an Interpolation As noted, verses 34-35 sit uncomfortably within 1 Corinthians 14, both grammatically and hermeneutically. Women were not well educated in his day and may well have been seated apart from the men in the church. A Note on 1 Corinthians 10:13. 33 and 36. 14:27-28 Iemand die in klanktaal spreekt, spreekt niet tot mensen maar alleen tot God. But when issues arise that they don't understand, they must refrain from making probing inquiry. . 30-35 Paul addresses in more depth the issues raised in v. 29. The structure of the argument is typical, not exceptional. New Living Translation Update. 1:5; 3:14), and for Priscilla, in team with her husband, privately to correct Apollos (Acts 18:26). 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is an Interpolation [19] As noted, verses 34-35 sit uncomfortably within 1 Corinthians 14, both grammatically and hermeneutically. In summary, the two arguments for not permitting a woman to have authority over men are: 1) that the order of creation (man first, woman second) implies a unique leadership role for man (v. 13), and 2) that the neglect of this divine pattern leads to transgression (v. 14). Mar 18, 1990. Adam’s simultaneous deception is seen in his acquiescence to this role reversal. &c.] Or "what is it brethren?" When Will Prophecy Cease? Sep 10, 2019. Prophecy Greater than Tongues. However, this is somewhat understandable given the seemingly intrusive nature of vv. The interpretation of 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 has proven to be more than a little controversial over the years. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 2:14. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 14:1. Look closely at the following detailed outline of this paragraph (which I have adapted from Hurley, Grudem, and D. A. Carson). Therefore, women are free to pray and prophesy within the assembly. 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Women should remain silent in the churches. Jan 1, 2012. 1 Corinthians 14:34: [1 Tim. (1) Some say 14:34-35 is a post-Pauline interpolation, i.e., an insertion into the text of chp. The interpretation of 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 has proven to be more than a little controversial over the years. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. (1) Some say 14:34-35 is a post-Pauline interpolation, i.e., an insertion into the text of chp. Those of us who believe in the textual integrity of 1 Corinthians will find this singularly unappealing, as well as unnecessary. John Piper Jan 1, 2012 12.5K Shares Article. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 20 Brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your thinking, but be infants in regard to evil and adult in your thinking. General Topic (14:26) - "When you assemble . 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. The plausibility of this explanation fades somewhat when the following observations are made: (1) there is no indication elsewhere in the letter that the women in particular were unruly; (2) Paul does confront unruly situations in the letter (11:33-34; 14:27,29,31). 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. Historically this has been taken to mean that Eve was tricked, while the man sinned with his eyes open. Links. 1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be a clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:. a strong prejudice against women speaking in public, and especially against their speaking to other women's husbands. [Read full chapter The Lord's Supper as Worship. Here are Five Common Misconceptions. 14 Let love be your highest goal! 3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouragement, and consolation. But to evaluate or criticize or judge prophetic utterances is another matter. The Greek word for “have authority over” (authentein) does not refer to “self-willed or arbitrary” exercise of authority (as is so often claimed), but to the proper function of a teaching elder (5:17). Sep 7, 2019. 34-35. The Textual Problem of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 [, Technical] Aquila and Priscilla in 1 Corinthians 16:19 [, Technical] A Review of “Some Observations on the Text-Critical Function of the Umlauts in Vaticanus, with Special Attention to 1 Corinthians 14.34-35,” [, Technical] Study Helps and related People who prophesied did not officially (or authoritatively) interpret or apply Scripture to life. Ensuring the edification of the congregation: "and let the others pass judgment", (In vv. But He chose to make man first. 1 Tim. Thus, on this view, Paul would be restricting speech designed to critique prophetic utterances, but would not prohibit other forms of verbal participation. See 1 Cor. 2:12 with Titus 2:3-5. The focus of Paul’s prohibition in 1 Timothy 2:12 is evident from the adjacent clause: “or to have authority over men.” What Paul does not permit is teaching which would put men in a position of receiving direct, personal authority from a woman. 3:1; 1 Corinthians 14:34: 1 Corinthians 14:34 in all English translations. "for you can all prophesy one by one", 1)???????????????? 35 When they want to learn anything in particular, they … If we assume that in 1 Timothy 2 Paul prohibits women from teaching or exercising authority over men, it is understandable why he would allow women to prophesy in 1 Cor. The specific question is raised: How should men and women relate to each other in the area of authoritative teaching? (1) Some say 14:34-35 is a post-Pauline interpolation, i.e., an insertion into the text of chp. Niemand kan hem verstaan, want door toedoen van de Geest spreekt hij onbegrijpelijke taal. Bible Verse; Newest; Oldest; Most Viewed; Most Shared; Sermon. In addition, (6) this view requires taking the Greek conjunction e ('or,' left untranslated in the NIV) at the beginning of verse 36 as a complete repudiation of what has gone before, even though no other use of e in Paul functions in that way. 14 Pursue love and be eager for the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. (7) Others have argued recently that vv. 1 Corinthians 14 generates more questions per square inch than just about any other chapter in the New Testament. For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. It seems unlikely that the problem of noisy women had arisen in all of them; (4) it seems unlike Paul to silence all women because some are noisy or disruptive. In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Paul wrote: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. Set your hearts on spiritual gifts, especially the gift of proclaiming God's message. Scripture: 1 Corinthians 11:17–34. John Piper Oct 22, 2015 767 Shares Sermon “Grace to You” and “Grace with You” Aug 28, 1994. See Titus 2:3-5. About Foundation Documents Leadership Council . Save: $14.98 (75%) Buy Now. 1 Corinthians 14:1 says, “Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.” These commands demand our obedience as much as any other command of Scripture. 14. 1 Corinthians 14:1 ... and keep on desiring spiritual gifts, especially the ability to prophesy. Our Price: $5.00. This refers to a use of the mind which accords with truth and reason (cf. He is author of. 2 For he who () speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 2 For the one speaking in a tongue does not speak to people but to God, for no one understands; he is speaking mysteries by the Spirit. He meets them by establishing order rather than by silencing the unruly completely; (3) the rule which Paul sets out is one which he says applies in all his churches (14:33b). So both are guilty, but the women are more easy prey for satanic deceit. But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy. (8) Christopher Forbes has argued that the key to this problem is the word aischron in v. 35, translated "improper" in the NASB. Thus Paul’s concern is probably not with her doctrinal incompetence or gullibility. Specific Issue #1: Tongues (14:27-28), A.?????????????? | We’re on a mission to change that. New International Version Update. Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially the gift of speaking what God has revealed. Further support for this view is found in the structure of the paragraph. In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Paul wrote: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. Scripture 1 Corinthians 14 Sort Bible Verse. Why? The other half of the argument is that “Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor” (v. 14). Bible Verse; Newest; Oldest; Most Viewed; Most Shared; Sermon. Paul writes, 33b As in all the churches of the saints, 34 … Regarding the prophets speaking: "but if a revelation is made to another who is seated, let the first keep silent", a.???????????????? The Western evangelical church is polarized in “gridlock” over the question about how men and women should relate. John Piper Aug 28, 1994 123 Shares Article. STEWARDS OF CHRIST AND OF GOD’S MYSTERIES. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 1 Corinthians 12:28 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] 1 Corinthians 12:28, NIV: "And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues." How wholly different, on the other hand, will the effect of general prophetic speaking be upon such persons! Amen A Word Common to Many Languages. 11:5 Paul gave instructions regarding how women were to pray and prophesy in the church meeting. 2 Those who speak in strange tongues do not speak to others but to God, because no one understands them. Before I answer that question, observe that v. 33b goes with v. 34, not with v. 33a. But who would ever have questioned that? 1 Corinthians 14:24-25. English Standard Version Update. 15:20-21; 2 Sam. Alvera and Berekely Micklesen responded with, “Did Paul Say Women Could Never Teach Men? 35 If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings. 3 But he who prophesies speaks () edification and () exhortation and comfort to men. 14 Pursue love and be eager for the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. It is likely that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 was instrumental in changing the interpretation of Genesis 3:16, for it is connected to Genesis 3:16 only when the verse is viewed as a commandment. How, then, do we reconcile 11:5 and 14:34-35? 3 On the other hand, one who prophesies does speak to human beings, for their building up, * encouragement, and solace. In 1 Corinthians 14:1, we read imperatives, that is commands from God that he is eager for us to obey. Bible Verse; Newest; Oldest; Most Viewed; Most Shared; Sermon. [36 Or did the word of God originate with you? 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